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A shotgun gives one a certain piece of mind when outnumbered or when one really wants, no NEEDS, to bring the hurt on bad actors. It's kinda why the po-po still carry them in their cruisers along with their M4's. If it's good enough for them, wellllllllll, I'm thinkin' it's good enough for us, in the right application.
Don't get me wrong; I still have my 'go to' AR, pistol, and semi-precision SART (Surgical A$$hole Removal Tool). The shotgun rounds things out nicely, though.
The picture below is an inertia driven Stoeger M3000 Defense Freedom Series 12 Gauge 'Up Close and Personal' Mutant Raider Deterrent. I'm likin' it!
It's got a pretty nice pedigree, too! STOEGER is owned by Benelli, which is owned by Beretta. This particular model is the closest thing you can get to a Benelli M4 without paying for the Benelli name. I've seen them as low as $599, if you watch for sales. I saw a Benelli M4 just a week ago on sale for $1,800! Some might not blink at that price, but I not only blink, I start to get vertigo....I digress. Various reviews show the STOEGER M3000 in all configurations to be very, very reliable, and the inertia recoil system (no longer exclusive to Benelli due to patent expiration) means it stays very clean as it does not, 'crap where it eats,' like a gas gun does. It comes with a fixed cylinder choke because the barrel is 18.5 inches and it's designed for 'crowd' control. That's why it's a 7+1 magazine tube, and if you Ghost Load it, you can get another round in it safely, giving you a total of NINE rounds! You could also buy another mag tube extension (I've seen some guys' STOEGERS who've done that), which if you had the 9 round, would give you a total of 11 (1 ghost loaded). That's a LOT of 00 Buck or Slugs! Personally, though, I think the addition of a barrel clamp with a rail to mount a light is a good option, should you decide you gotta have one.
Here's a nice video review of the STOEGER model pictured above. It's over 30 minutes, and it's aimed at the tactical shooter, but it really lets you know what you're buying.
One thing Benelli does state unequivocally about it's inertia driven system: NO MAINTENANCE REQUIRED! All the fouling that ends up, in say, a Remington 1100/1187 or other semi-auto gas gun's chamber goes out the barrel. That's a pretty tall claim, but they stick by it, so if the STOEGER is essentially the same system as the Benelli (and it is), it stands to reason that a subsidiary of the parent company would have the same operating system. I'll be finding out soon.
I am also impressed that the STOEGER takes Benelli parts, and there are companies out there to turn your M3K into a 'John Wick' version, and still be well under the base price of the Benelli M4. Speaking of 'John Wick,' here's the man himself training on a Benelli. You DO know that Mr. Reeves can run the guns he uses in his movies, right? He's a shooter, not a poser, when it comes to trigger depression.
Directly above is one of the hunting versions; this one comes with, I believe, 3 chokes, which makes it very versatile. From what I understand, a lot of guys turn the above model into a '3 Gun' competition model. One of the companies that does it at reasonable rates (in my mind, anyway) is called, 'MOA' (Mission of Accuracy). They have AR upgraded parts as well, but more shotgun than anything, and it's focused on the STOEGER line, and fixes little things like larger bolt handles and releases, magazine tube extensions and the like. PS - I know of one guy who's used them and he's waaaaay satisfied. I, on the other hand, have not purchased a thing from these guys. Nor do I get any slack for writing good things, either. So, do your research.
Let me know your experience with the STOEGER or Benelli M4 in the comments.
This isn't about the Stoeger or Benelli, but it is shotgun related. I have a mossberg 500 with a 7 shot tube. I installed the OPSol Mini-Clip, and now have the ability to have 12 rounds of the mini-shells in the tube. I figure at the range the shotgun will be used, the mini-shells will still get the job done.
Nothing wrong with a pump gun; shot them for years. Remington, Mossberg, Winchester. Once I went to semi-auto, though, I never looked back because it kicks things up several notches. Even at a sporting clay range, or simply launching clay on your own for practice, but to each his own; on ammo, personally I prefer the 2 3/4 shells in either 00 Buck or slug, but that's what I was weaned on. I like 3 inch, but not as a steady diet. They're more like a 'specialty round' for me...like stopping vehicles or motor cycles.....I'd have to see how the mini shells performed at 30 meters, which isn't that far for a shotgun. My training was out to 50 meters with a Winchester M12, military configuration, and then the Remington 870 riot model after that. 50 meters was about the limit, but it still did the job.
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DTG’s 2021 Updated 10 Week (If You’re Lucky) Plan to Prepare for the Worst-Case Scenario It’s been about 13 or 14 years since I wrote this under my since retired ‘nom de guerre’, and commenting on a blog post recently, CA at Western Rifle Shooter’s Association asked me if I’d mind updating it. This is a good base plan for folks you might know just waking up to the fact that things are spinning faster in the vortex than ever before, and this might be the best chance for them to get themselves in gear. Feel free to add or take away as your situation and local area conditions may require. Understand something, though: You have a VERY small window; it may even be too late should something happen that accerlerates the current environment like a JATO (Jet Assisted Take Off) rocket on a C130. So, if you’re just getting started, you need to act now, as in today. Not next week. Not in two weeks. You may not HAVE two weeks. You may be thinking,
Just as Samson was seduced by Delilah, so can you be seduced by the internal desire you have to one degree or another to have all the latest, greatest, coolest, most technically advanced, and 'tacticool' weapons, gear, and associated support equipment available, which, by necessity, will set you back many, many thousands of dollars, usually. When sporty times come, the first thing you'll need to be able to do is actually use what you have. The you have to be able to carry it all. I mention this Nevada a great many, "gear-a-holics" are not in the best shape. Remember a good rule of thumb: All your gear, including weapons, ammo, equipment (all types), food and water shouldn't weigh more than about 65 or 70 pounds. Then, if you're planning on being mobile, you should be ruckingin all sorts of weather over varying distances at a pace of no less than 3 miles an hour over relatively flat and clear routes. But, if you've been collecting gear, I u
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This isn't about the Stoeger or Benelli, but it is shotgun related. I have a mossberg 500 with a 7 shot tube. I installed the OPSol Mini-Clip, and now have the ability to have 12 rounds of the mini-shells in the tube. I figure at the range the shotgun will be used, the mini-shells will still get the job done.
ReplyDeleteNothing wrong with a pump gun; shot them for years. Remington, Mossberg, Winchester. Once I went to semi-auto, though, I never looked back because it kicks things up several notches. Even at a sporting clay range, or simply launching clay on your own for practice, but to each his own; on ammo, personally I prefer the 2 3/4 shells in either 00 Buck or slug, but that's what I was weaned on. I like 3 inch, but not as a steady diet. They're more like a 'specialty round' for me...like stopping vehicles or motor cycles.....I'd have to see how the mini shells performed at 30 meters, which isn't that far for a shotgun. My training was out to 50 meters with a Winchester M12, military configuration, and then the Remington 870 riot model after that. 50 meters was about the limit, but it still did the job.
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